BijanBlog: [bijan sabet] the personal tumblelog of Bijan Sabet
Louis Berlan
· 1 year ago
Great points Bijan. Although I wonder about a couple of them pics not going to the web: isn't that mostly because the ways to get them on the web are fiddly and not great? I think that might change with the iPhone, and the Facebook app. Among the "college crowd", I've noticed that this shift has happened among people who have an iPhone or BlackBerry...
bijan
· 1 year ago
I think there are a lot of issues with photo web sites today and how they work with mobile phones.
And that is especially true for the youth market.
Flickr, photobucket, myspace and facebook aren't made for the youth market
And they don't' reflect the mobile-to-mobile needs.
As adults we have better tools for mobile to mobile (e.g. Twitter, twitpic, etc)
Louis Berlan
· 1 year ago
I think you're right. I was thinking of a more long term scenario where (as I see it) the boundary between what's mobile-to-mobile/mobile ony (pics, texts, etc.) and what's online will slowly blur.
Chris Bartow
· 1 year ago
Wow, this is exactly what I've been working on, but feel without monetization methods its a fruitless venture to make it work smoother.
It's basically twitter for photos, so you can mass send/receive photos via cell phone with a web component for comments/organization.
Facebook has a lot of these features if you use the iPhone app, but you are right, most kids don't have iphones or even data plans. MMS and SMS is where it's at.
bijan
· 1 year ago
How is your app different or better than Twitpic? I think there are lots of ways to innovate here but would love to hear your thoughts if you were open to sharing.
Chris Bartow
· 1 year ago
It's not made to just do photo uploads to twitter, it's to replace twitter all together.
I added a feature that updates your twitter acount when you send a photo, but it's lame having to store passwords to other services. I don't want to store other account passwords. I wish the twitter api had a way to generate keys so the user has more control over what services can update their account.
bijan
· 1 year ago
Sorry I think I'm a little dense this morning.
Pls tell me more about what you want the Twitter api to do that it's not doing
(disclosure: I'm an investor and on the board of Twitter)
bijan
Chris Bartow
· 1 year ago
The ability to post a tweet for someone without knowing there password. For twitpic to work, I have to give them my twitter username/password, which allows them to do whatever they want with my account. Will they do something evil? Probably not, but still...
So, it would be nice if a user could go in and generate a key on the main twitter site, then use this for twitpic or ANY service that wants to be able to update to twitter. This way you can give twitpic your username/key and this would A) restrict what outside services can do and B) give the user the ability to change the key to lock out any services they wish.
bijan
· 1 year ago
Got it now. I'll ask the twitter guys and get their thoughts
tweetip
· 1 year ago
Chris (& Bijan),
Twitter engineer Britt Selvitelle recently said twitter "will be using OAuth as our primary form of token auth." http://bit.ly/3DiHxh
Though Alex from twitter has it tagged as a low priority.
hth
Michael
jeremystein
· 1 year ago
#9 is why twitter is the new aim.
i think that a data plan becomes more important as a function of age.
bijan
· 1 year ago
I think you are right on both fronts.
And as phones get better, data plans will become more important in addition to the ³user² getting older.
But SMS has unique advantages too. Even though my phone has the best browser and wifi, I will often use Google SMS for certain things. It gives me the answer I need without all of the fluff.
Ed
· 1 year ago
I can't tell you how exacting that list was of our experience.
Quite literally the entire list is a mirror...
MoCheeks
· 1 year ago
Re: #6
I think John Poisson and the team over at radar.net is trying to capitalize on this huge opportunity.
I've been using radar for a few years now, and i think it is a great solution for sharing mobile picture privately (and publicly) amongst my circle of friends.
:-) If you don't already know John, let me know and i'd be happy to put you in touch with him
Cheers, @MoCheeks
bijan
· 1 year ago
I'll have to check it out.
bijan
Jay Parkhill
· 1 year ago
My oldest is also 9. We're trying to hold out until he's 13 to give him a phone. None of his friends have one now, but I suspect it is going to sweep through the group very quickly at some point. We'll see how long we can put it off- I have a hard enough time keeping track of where my own phone is.
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work with mobile phones.
And that is especially true for the youth market.
Flickr, photobucket, myspace and facebook aren't made for the youth market
And they don't' reflect the mobile-to-mobile needs.
As adults we have better tools for mobile to mobile (e.g. Twitter, twitpic,
etc)
It's basically twitter for photos, so you can mass send/receive photos via cell phone with a web component for comments/organization.
Facebook has a lot of these features if you use the iPhone app, but you are right, most kids don't have iphones or even data plans. MMS and SMS is where it's at.
ways to innovate here but would love to hear your thoughts if you were open
to sharing.
I added a feature that updates your twitter acount when you send a photo, but it's lame having to store passwords to other services. I don't want to store other account passwords. I wish the twitter api had a way to generate keys so the user has more control over what services can update their account.
Pls tell me more about what you want the Twitter api to do that it's
not doing
(disclosure: I'm an investor and on the board of Twitter)
bijan
So, it would be nice if a user could go in and generate a key on the main twitter site, then use this for twitpic or ANY service that wants to be able to update to twitter. This way you can give twitpic your username/key and this would A) restrict what outside services can do and B) give the user the ability to change the key to lock out any services they wish.
Twitter engineer Britt Selvitelle recently said twitter "will be using OAuth as our primary form of token auth." http://bit.ly/3DiHxh
Though Alex from twitter has it tagged as a low priority.
hth
Michael
i think that a data plan becomes more important as a function of age.
And as phones get better, data plans will become more important in addition
to the ³user² getting older.
But SMS has unique advantages too. Even though my phone has the best browser
and wifi, I will often use Google SMS for certain things. It gives me the
answer I need without all of the fluff.
Quite literally the entire list is a mirror...
I think John Poisson and the team over at radar.net is trying to capitalize on this huge opportunity.
I've been using radar for a few years now, and i think it is a great solution for sharing mobile picture privately (and publicly) amongst my circle of friends.
:-) If you don't already know John, let me know and i'd be happy to put you in touch with him
Cheers,
@MoCheeks
bijan